25 People Describe Problems In Modern Society That Put Social Pressure On Boys And Men
1. Being a Great Dad
Being a loving father is not โcreepyโ.
I have an 11 year old boy, an 8 y/o boy and a 4 y/o daughter.
Iโve gotten really weird looks giving my kids kisses on the cheek in public. My oldest son got the worst of it because he was my first kiddo. I constantly gave him hugs and kisses as a baby because my dad couldnโt even be bothered to tell me he loved me.
So I vowed to be a loving sweet father, unlike mine. There are days we go to the store and Iโll snuggle into my daughterโs neck and tell her how much I love her. I still call her โprincessโ to this day.
Every now and then I get weird looks. It hurts because it was so common for my dad to walk 5 yards ahead of me in a store and not care, but I care. So I love my kids. And to some people this is some how weird.
Edit: I also want to add that for those of us dadโs who give a shit, women, you can ask us questions. Just because Iโm a single father doesnโt mean I donโt know anything about my kids. I know all their birthdays by heart, what food they like, what movies they loveโฆ Just because Iโm a dad doesnโt mean Iโm oblivious to my children. You can talk to me the same as you would a mother and Iโll respond the exact same way: with love, compassion, and understanding.
Edit #2: Wow, thanks so much for all the kind words and awards. Yโall are wonderful, thank you!
Edit #3: Oh my gosh, yโall are just too kind! Thank you to everyone who had something positive to say. This really made my day!
Lelio-Santero579
2. Being Supportive
Mental health, domestic abuse, showing emotions, body imageโฆ. I could go on. What I do to help my partners is be completely open about my problems and allow them to do the same. I let them talk. I listen. And when the conversations come to an end, we work on it. Want counseling? We can do it together. Want to lose weight? Letโs go on a diet. However they want to deal with their problems is alright by me so long as it isnโt self-destructive. I think we should be supportive.
PibbyChullz
3. Vulernability
A large part of my life has been spent opening up to people who only used my vulnerability as an opportunity to gather ammunition on how to really hurt me later on. Thatโs why I walk around like nothingโs bothering me cuz if Iโve learned anything about being a man, itโs that my feelings donโt matter one fucking bit unless theyโre hurting someone else or they can later be used to hurt me. As men, itโs simply more convenient and safer to suffer in silence. Thatโs all that is accepted or expected of us and to do otherwise would only bring more suffering.
โHit him where it hurts because heโll have no choice but to take it like a man.โ
Zack_WithaK
4. Male Privilege
When I feel a particular way about something or have a belief about something it often gets labeled by โthat is because of your male privilegeโ.
I am so afraid to share my opinion, particularly since I am an anthropologists (grad student) because of how critical people of any comment I make.
I recently said โI think we could make a study group and people will want to join. People are more willing if we already establish something.โ And the first response was โYou just think that way because of your male privilege.โ
Brasdefer
5. Mental Health
This hits pretty close to home. Opened up about my declining mental health to a friend of mine who proceeded to tell me โYou donโt know what depression even isโ and told me how he had it worse and that I didnโt know what I was talking about. That was ten years ago and I only recently became comfortable opening up about mental health again after feeling invalidated from a trusted person. Doesnโt take much to reinforce the idea of hiding your feelings away.
Thoughtnight
6. Expressing Feelings
When you ask us to express our feelings, you need to let express ourย actualย feelings and not just the feelings youย wantย us to express. This also needs to be entirely free of judgement or punishment.
As men, weโre constantly told we need to express our feelings more. But all too often, if we express anything other than strength we are judged, quite harshly, as being weak, selfish, unattractive, and less of a man.
r0botdevil
7. Parenting
Main ones for me are the inability to properly be a parent in public with out being judged and things like use PARENTING rooms to change a nappy or whatever which are unisex without being looked at as some creep (my friend once actually had the mall security called in him by a lady claiming there was a man in the womens toilets ) or me being by myself with my own kids automatically makes me some sort of criminal especially if the kid throws a tantrum at a mall and itโs crying,screaming etc and I could be trying to put them back in their pram with them screaming and random women would be giving me dagger eyes . Where if my wife has a shouting screaming kid other women just give her a kind understanding smile and walk along โฆ if women can cut down on that sorta judgemental stuff it would be great โฆ I know this isnโt the case every time you go out in public but just having it happen a few times always leaves it in the back of your mind.
katofan1
8. Double Standard
Every time I took my daughters alone (without my wife) for a scheduled heath check up (like those that take place to verify whether their development is healthy), I got asked whether their mother wasnโt going to join us.
My wife has never been asked the same question when I wasnโt there.
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When my children were in daycare. We always stated and repeated: if there is a problem call the fatherโs phone. As I am the one with a flexible job, closest to the day care. Theyย neverย called me. They always called my wife.
frozen-dessert
9. Signs of Weakness
My dad yelled at me for crying at my grampaโs funeral because my grampa wouldnโt improve. Any sign of weakness in sports or anything he gets upset with me for looking โsoftโ. but he tells me he loves me everyday and gives hugs and stuff so its confusing.
Waffle-Azul
10. Dick Stigmas
Yeah โ the notion that someoneโs penis size or function is attributable to his character and worth. Guys donโt have control over that, so the stigma around small dicks and ED has always seemed unfair and uncompassionate.
gaweenbob
11. The Fear of Not Enough
I am of average height, and average size, I know this, yet all I feel in that Iโm just not enough, lowkey sucks lol
Arzakhan
12. Post Partum Depression
Men can get postpartum depression. But they arenโt screened for it; only mothers are (in our experience in the US).
My husband suffered from it after we had our first child. They screened me, the mom, for it in the hospital, at my follow-up OBGYN appointments, and at our babyโs pediatrician appointments. My husband was there for all of those except the OBGYN. Nobody ever even asked how he was feeling.
DenversTrain
13. Being a Victim
Men face a greater stigma for mental illness and being a sexual assault victimโฆ try to not demasculate a man who brings it upโฆ both of those fucked me up beyond repair.
DrowLivesMatter
14. Childhood Trauma
Or men with any kind of childhood trauma. That smelly or unkempt kid who wears the same clothes every day and sleeps in class most likely has a terrible life at home. I know too many quiet and nerdy guys that seem ok now, but when they open up, they get horrible responses. Like wtf? If this was a woman, sheโd get a shoulder to cry on. I knew a guy that lost his entire friend group because he opened up about child abuse for the first time in his life and broke down for a while. Girlfriend cheated on him because he has โdeep seeded issuesโ and was a โpussyโ. He couldnโt handle that and put a shotgun in his mouth. No wonder why men donโt talk about their issues.
An edit for yโall: I love how much you are supporting each other.
MasterPresident2
15. Rape Victim
As a male rape victim, in my experience, the worst things I ever was told about it came from women. Most men werenโt emotionally equiped to really engage it, if I told them, in any meaningful way.
But some women, men. Wow. Some downright evil things have been said to me because of what I went through.
PhatJohny
16. Danger and Anger
Just because Iโm a man doesnโt mean Iโm dangerous, or angry all the time.
I took my son to the ER for a broken leg years ago, and got the third degree from EVERY person that came in and examined or worked with him. The innuendo about his injury being due to me was palpable, yet they never came out and straight accused me of it. It caused additional stress that wasnโt needed, and embarrassed me to no end.
TheMrDetty
17. Feeling Safe at Home
Itโs tough. I got the 3rd degree when my wife went to the ER due to a panic attack. She got asked the battery of questions like โdo you feel safe with your husband presentโ and I was livid. I can understand that there are people in this world that need that safety mechanism and itโs more tragic for something like that to go undiscovered and continue than my feeling embarrassed or offended. I can intellectually weigh those options and will assert that asking those questions is absolutely the right thing to do.
That said, Iโve NEVER been asked โdo I feel safe at homeโ or โwould you prefer to speak without your wife presentโ. Youโre telling me thereโs not one man out there that might need that safety net too? I say the protocol should be 1) ask the questions to everyone, and then 2) formally apologize and/or explain to the other person there the importance of that question.
Acknowledging the elephant in the room can go a long way to dispelling the tension.
pazdispencer
18. No Close Friends
Men have no close friend.
I just realized this after deep reflection. Men have tens of โbuddiesโ but we see each other every half year. We share bbq and beer but not sadness, worries or our goals in life.
Most men feel isolated after breakup and divorce because we realize we dont really have anyone.
Llanite
19. Canโt Defend Ourselves
Men arenโt allowed to defend ourselves from physical attacks by women. Solution, keep your hands to yourself and call out other women when they do this. If Iโm expected to intervene when you are being attacked by a man, you should be expected to do the same when roles are reversed. Raise your daughter to keep their hands to themselves.
To be clear, I only believe in self defense in these cases, not first strikes.
i_need_a_username201
20. More Income
Thereโs a weird pressure for men to make more than women in their employments. It is slowly changing, but there are a lot of women who refuse to date any guy who makes less than them. Thereโs some weird โtrade upโ mentality that people embrace.
I saw a lot of it on online dating a while back. Women would say things like โI make $55k per year, please make at least that or moreโ. Those were the ones I would not talk to.
zomgitsduke
21. Relationship Responsibility
One problem Iโve had in past relationships was responsibility. If sheโs unhappy, itโs my responsibility to make her happy. If Iโm unhappy itโs my responsibility to make myself happy. If I want something done around the house then I have to do it. If she wants something done around the house I have to do it. Men are loved conditionally and women are loved unconditionally. Make an effort to make men feel valuable and not replaceable.
quackerzdb
22. Toxic Phrase
โHappy wife, happy lifeโ is much more toxic and abusive then people realize. It implies that the wifeโs happiness is all that matters and that your overall happiness lives or dies by what she alone will allow. If sheโs not happy, youโre not allowed to be happy. If youโre not happy, itโs probably because sheโs not happy and thatโs automatically your fault and your responsibility. Thatโs not a happy life or a healthy relationship, thatโs being held emotionally hostage.
Zack_WithaK
23. One-Sided Sexism
One thing that really bogs me (28m) is how sexism apparently only exists if women are the ones suffering from it.
Like, its absolutely not OK when you expect a woman to do the laundry or the cooking. (And I absolutely agree that thatโs no OK, just to point this out). But for some reason its perfectly fine to expect a man to fix stuff around the house, change the cars tires, instruct and help the plumber/electrician/whatever. Like wtf?
Also in my country (Austria) adult men are forced to waste 6-9 months of their life serving the military, while women are not. Imagine this was the other way around. That would cause an unimaginable shitstorm and probably be reported in media all across the globe.
Wundawuzi
24. Acceptable Fashion
Being a guy means youโre limited to like 4 types of acceptable fashion, without being judged or called slurs. Wearing pants all the time sucks.
ViscachaBlue
25. Domestic Abuse
People generally donโt take domestic abuse too seriously when the victim is a man. To help out with that, women can either stop abusing us, or stop trying to justify it or doubt us when we finally feel comfortable enough to open up about it. Itโs so disheartening when I finally feel like I can safely be vulnerable enough to mention my past abuse but then I get questions and comments that would be deemed abhorrent if they were said to a female abuse victim. But as men, all we get is โJust donโt do that again and she wonโt hit youโ โMaybe she just had a bad dayโ or the classic โMaN uPโ
And for the love of all that is holy and fun, please STOP asking us what we did to make her that mad. No one would ask a woman what she did to provoke such abuse so itโs insulting and disrespectful for that to be the first, last, and only thing people tend to wonder. I am so tired of having to justify myself when I say โI was abusedโ because people seem to universally gatekeep that kind of pain away from us. When a man is a victim of domestic abuse, all I ask is to please just treat us with the same courtesy, respect, sympathy, and human decency thatโs normally reserved for women. A woman canโt stub her toe in the same area code as a man without movements and hashtags and support groups popping up out of the woodwork overnight. But when a man is abused, his abuser gets every benefit of every doubt possible, assuming people actually believe him in the first place.
โHe hit me but I deserved it for making him mad enough to do that. I know I shouldnโt make him that mad so itโs my fault for making him hit me.โ That is absolutely appalling and unacceptable.
โShe hit you but you deserved it for making her mad enough to do that. You know you shouldnโt make her that mad so itโs your fault for making her hit youโ Thatโs just normal advice on a normal Tuesday.
Zack_WithaK
