Phoebe Pojo, A Youth Consultant Redefining Beauty Standards
Phoebe Pojo, also known as Pojo, is the βyouth consultantβ and videographer at Collective Worldβs sister company The H Hub,Β as well as (what she considers herself to be) a retired model, who creates meaningful, productive media for models and their fans.Β After she left her modeling agency at age 18, she started Models That EatΒ on Instagram and YouTubeΒ to create a safe space online for models to discuss their relationships with food and their bodies. Along with creating video content for Models That Eat, she is H Collectiveβs in-house videographer and community manager.
What is your title at The H Hub?Β I have a self-made title as a βyouth consultantβ and I think that applies to everything I do. I do in-house videography, Iβm the community manager in charge of events, like dinners and parties and panels, and then I also do, in quotes, βyouth consultingβ where I talk to brands that come to us for social media marketing. Since Iβm the youngest in the office, Iβm kinda like the voice of the youth.
Whatβs your favorite thing about working at H Collective?Β I like that I get to be creative. I make friends every single day. I get to make content that I know impacts people positively; all the content Iβm creating is meaningful and has value and is something meant to help people. My goal is productive media: if itβs not helping others, I donβt want to make it.
What happened with modeling that allowed you to create Models That Eat?Β I started doing fashion week and I had a lot of friends who modeled. We liked to grab food between castings and when we would travel, we would try out new restaurants. We would be eating pizza and joke, βThey always say models donβt eat!β and I thought it was funny, so I made an Instagram account called Models That Eat. Models are objectified, so itβs modelsΒ thatΒ eat and not modelsΒ whoΒ eat. I thought I was so smart! People will reach out to me or Iβll reach out to themβitβs usually my friends or people I know just because itβs more comfortable that way. Itβs just a vulnerable space to be in, whether if itβs a vlog or a Mukbang or a Dine N Dish episode where I talk to models about their relationship with food while they eat their favorite foods. Itβs nice to see them enjoying themselves and being impactful and honest.
Have you had any major realizations while doing this?Β Oh for sure. A lot of my friends had eating disorders and didnβt really talk about it. When I would eat with them, it would be them binging and I wouldnβt even know. It started to frustrate me, that something like that went on for so long without anyone trying to help. Itβs really hard to watch girls come into this modeling industry and want to be famous and beautiful and validatedβ¦but this industry rips them apart. They feel like theyβre uglier now than when they first showed up. Thatβs what breaks my heart.
What kind of reaction did you get from people who came across Models That Eat? I mean, it would just be us eating and me taking stupid photos between shows of us grabbing pizza or eating a burger. A lot of friends have large fan bases and these fans would find my page and message me, βIβm so inspired! Rebecca eating that tacoβ¦β and I donβt know, it was just weird. Theyβd have these strange reactions and I just didnβt understand why it was such a monumental thing to post photos of models eating. But then a model reached out to me and told me she found the account and it inspired her to recover from her eating disorder and start her own positive food-documentation account. I didnβt have the mental capacity to think of something so monumental like that.
Whatβs your relationship like with food? Iβve always had a really positive relationship with food and I think itβs because I was raised in the modeling industry the right way. My agency really nurtured me when I was young because I was a commercial girl and I didnβt have a lot of body image pressures and it was very easy to please clients with my 14 year-old frame. I went vegan when I was 16. I would get passive remarks about food sometimes but I never internalized them because itβs just the nature of the industry. I meanβ¦your body is your brand.
What are your goals for Models That Eat? I want to create a safe space online for models to discuss their relationships with food and their bodies. Maybe it helps them, like food therapy in a way. I want them to have that open conversation and for their fans to find it and consume that dialogue.
Tell me about your modeling career and that transition to Models That Eat.Β I started Models That Eat after I left my agency. I even tried to get signed to another big agency in New York and the day before I had an interview, the president of the agency called me and said something along the lines of βWe wonβt be able to manage you here. We donβt have a platform for Models That Eat at our agency.β They didnβt like that it existed. They were threatened by this movement. I cried to my mom and I asked her what I was doing wrong and she just told me, βNo, theyβre mad because youβre doing something right.βΒ [cw-mark]